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• @lenz@lemmy.ml 2026-11-14 18:13

  Is it definitively wrong to eat meat? You’re not sitting around waiting until animals die to eat them. The meat industry is not waiting until an animal dies of old age, disease, or a freak accident. According to the definition of veganism that would technically be vegan. The Vegan Society defines veganism as: Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose It’s not exploitative or cruel to eat flesh which died for natural reasons. It is exploitative and cruel to prop up an industry which treats animals like objects to be slaughtered painfully at your convenience. Since you eventually die, is it wrong that you were born? This is a non-sequitor that implies that it’s okay to kill animals because they eventually die. Ethically, there’s a huge difference between killing someone and someone dying a natural death. Isn’t it wrong to deny that cow a few years of munching on grass in the sun lit fields? You don’t only eat grass-fed beef if you ever go out to eat at restaurants. Most cows aren’t grass-fed because we literally don’t have enough grass on this planet to feed them all. Also, grass-fed cows produce more methane, which is a massive contributor to climate change. Beef cows are slaughtered at 18 months old, and dairy cows are slaughtered at 4-6 years old when their milk production drops. Cows can live 15-20 years naturally, with the oldest cow being 48 years old. Doing the math, that’s like if I killed you when you were 18. Stop pretending what we do to animals is nice. Just admit you don’t really care about what they go through and would rather eat a burger. If it wasn’t bred for food consumption, it would’ve never existed. That’s an argument for existence having moral weight. By this logic, all humans would have as many babies as possible because we’re depriving potential babies of their existence. Or are saying that it’s okay to do whatever we want to someone, as long as they “owe us” for being the cause of their existence? In that case, I beg you not to have kids.

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• @Zephorah@discuss.online 2026-11-15 00:32

  Chickens, seriously, are made for food. They’re cool little animals. Curious. A little fun, and a little annoying at times. They make pleasant sounds. But consider them. Small package, eggs, and yummy meat. Easy enough to deal with in small numbers too, IF you’re willing to clean the chicken shit out of their coop and all the rest. I think the big problem for many is factory farming. I doubt any of us likes seeing those open cages stuffed with leghorns stacked high on a semi trailer in the open wind of the interstate. Looks miserable. Is it so bad if you’re personally involved in the entire process of your meat? It’s November. There’s about to be a lot of freezers filled with venison. Hunters will shoot the animal, and many will hang the carcass in their own garage and butcher it themselves, and fill a freezer. I say this as someone who loves to watch the deer in my front yard. I watched another pair of fawns grow past their spots this year. But I’ll still eat one. Drove past a cow farm in California once. They were stacked shoulder to shoulder in there. Mud, no grass. Looked miserable. That bothers me. Venison in the freezer in November or backyard chickens do not. The latter shows more respect imo.

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